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The '''Second Sea Lord''', until 1904 officially '''Second Naval Lord''', and after 1917 '''Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel''', was a member the [[Board of Admiralty]] responsible for the personnel of the British [[Royal Navy]]. He was in charge of manning the ships, and training and educating the men. ==History== The position of Second Naval Lord was abolished by Hugh Childers upon becoming First Lord of the Admiralty in December, 1868, and Rear-Admiral George Seymour, a previous Third Naval Lord, was appointed to assist the First Naval Lord with the workload. In January, 1869, Captain George Willes succeeded Seymour and was appointed as "Chief of the Staff," with the same pay as the Junior Naval Lord, and the task of superintending the Coastguard, Royal Naval Reserve, and the manning of the Fleet.<ref>''The Naval Staff of the Admiralty''. [''Naval Staff''.] pp. 11-12.</ref> By [[Order in Council of 14 January, 1869]], the position of Second Naval Lord officially ceased to exist and his duties were nominally given to the First Naval Lord, assisted by the Junior Naval Lord. The other Naval Lords were also given an increase in pay.<ref>Hamilton. pp. 189-190.</ref> The office of Second Naval Lord was re-established on 19 April, 1872, by Order in Council of 19 March of that year. His salary was fixed at &pound;1,200 a year. His duties were not specified as part of the distribution of Admiralty business.<ref>Hamilton. p. 192.</ref> <blockquote>The First Naval Lord, the Second Naval Lord, and the Junior Naval Lord to be responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the Administration of so much business relating to the "Personnel" of the Navy, and to the movement and condition of your Majesty's Fleet, as shall be assigned them, from time to time, by the First Lord.<ref>Quoted in Hamilton. p. 192.</ref></blockquote> Up to 1904, the Second Naval Lord was responsible for a large number of details:<ref>Quoted in ''Statement Showing Present Distribution of the Board of Admiralty''. p. 4.</ref> # Manning of the Fleet. # Mobilisation of the Fleet and of Reserves so far as relates to ''personnel''. # Appointments of&mdash;<br>Lieutenants, except to Commands.<br>Sub-Lieutenants.<br>Midshipmen and Naval Cadets.<br>Navigating Officers&mdash;except to Commands.<br>Engineer Officers.<br>Chaplains and Naval Instructors.<br>Medical Officers.<br>Paymasters.<br>Assistant Paymasters, Clerks and Assistant Clerkes.<br>Chief and other Warrant Officers.<br>And General Questions connected with the Staff the above. # Royal Marine Light Infantry and Royal Marine Artillery. # Medical Service afloat and on shore, Nursing Staff. # Fleet Reserve&mdash;as regards Officers and Men. # Training Establishments. # Naval Colleges. # Education and Training of Officers, Men, and Boys of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines. # Coastguard, except Buildings. # Royal Naval Reserve. # Royal Naval Volunteers. # Interpreters. # Medals. # Deserters. # Character Conduct, and Badge Questions. # Naval Prisons. # Minor Collisions. Upon Admiral [[John Arbuthnot Fisher, First Baron Fisher|Sir John A. Fisher]] becoming First Sea Lord on 20 October, 1904, the distribution of business of the Board was completely changed, and the Second Sea Lord, as the Second Naval Lord became, was responsible for:<ref>Quoted in ''Statement Showing Present Distribution of the Board of Admiralty''. p. 4.</ref> # Manning and Training of the Fleet, which includes Complements, Barracks, Training and Educational Establishments; also all Mobilization Regulations for the ''Personnel''. # Service and Appointments of Officers of all Branches (except as reserved to First Lord). # Royal Marines. # Coastguard and Reserve Forces. # Hospitals. # Discipline. # Signals. By Order in Council of 21 December, 1906, the emoluments of the Second Sea Lord were raised from &pound;1,000 a year to &pound;1,500 a year, in addition to Naval Half Pay.<ref>Order in Council of 21 December, 1906.</ref> By Order-in-Council of 23 October, 1917, the Second Sea Lord's title was altered to '''Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel'''.<ref>Order in Council of 23 October, 1917.</ref> ==Office== Immediately prior to the Great War the Second Sea Lord's office consisted of a Naval Assistant, a Commander, and a Fleet Paymaster.<ref>''Navy Estimates for the Year 1914&ndash;1915''. p. 146.</ref> ==Duties== {| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%" ! 1861.<ref>"Appendix No. 1. Distribution of Duties." ''Report of the Select Committee on the Board of Admiralty'' (1861). p. 639.</ref> |- | Appointment of Officers under the rank of Commander (exclusive of Lieutenants in Command), Lieutenants, Masters, Masters' Assistants, Mates, Midshipmen, Naval Cadets, Warrant Officers. |- | Punishments and Returns. |- | Gunnery and returns, Appointment of Gunnery Officers. |- | Courts Martial and Courts of Inquiry. |- | Prize and Admiralty Courts. |- | Marines and Marine Artillery. |- | Dockyard Battalions. |- | Pirates, Head Money. |- | Salvage. |- | Collisions at Sea. |- | Royal Naval College. |} {| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%" ! December, 1872.<ref>{{TNA|ADM 1/6313.}}</ref> |- | 1.&mdash;Manning of the Fleet. |- | 2.&mdash;Coast Guard, except Buildings. |- | 3.&mdash;Royal Naval Reserve. |- | 4.&mdash;Royal Naval Coast Volunteers. |- | 5.&mdash;Pensioners&mdash;when called out. |- | 6.&mdash;Naval College, Greenwich. |- | 7.&mdash;Greenwich Hospital&mdash;as regards Officers and Men. |- | 8.&mdash;Removals of "R." |- | 9.&mdash;Good Conduct medals. |- | 10.&mdash;Pensions. |- | 11.&mdash;Appointments of<br>Lieutenants, except to Commands.<br>Sub-Lieutenants.<br>Midshipmen.<br>Cadets.<br>Navigating Officers&mdash;except to Commands.<br>Gunners and Boatswains. |} {| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%" ! April, 1875.<ref>{{TNA|ADM 1/6313.}}</ref> |- | 1.&mdash;Manning of the Fleet, and Training Establishments. |- | 2.&mdash;Coast Guard, except Buildings. |- | 3.&mdash;Royal Naval Reserve. |- | 4.&mdash;Royal Naval Coast Volunteers. |- | 5.&mdash;Pensioners&mdash;when called out. |- | 6.&mdash;Naval Colleges. |- | 7.&mdash;Greenwich Hospital&mdash;as regards Officers and Men. |- | 8.&mdash;Removals of "R." |- | 9.&mdash;Good Conduct medals. |- | 10.&mdash;Royal Humane Society's Medals. |- | 11.&mdash;War Medals. |- | 12.&mdash;Pensions. |- | 13.&mdash;Appointments of<br>Lieutenants, except to Commands.<br>Sub-Lieutenants.<br>Midshipmen.<br>Cadets.<br>Navigating Officers&mdash;except to Commands.<br>Gunners and Boatswains. |} ==Second Naval Lords/Second Sea Lords== Dates of appointment given in all instances: <div name=fredbot:office0 otitle="Second Sea Lord" nat="UK">{{TenureListBegin|Second Sea Lord}} {{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=John Walter Tarleton|nick=Sir John W. Tarleton|appt=1872|as=Second Naval Lord|precBy=Vacant}} {{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Geoffrey Thomas Phipps Hornby|nick=Geoffrey T. P. Hornby|appt=1874|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Arthur William Acland Hood, First Baron Hood|nick=Arthur W. A. Hood|appt=15 January, 1877{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Rear-Admiral|name=Richard James Meade, Fourth Earl of Clanwilliam|nick=Richard J. Meade|appt=6 December, 1879{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=John Hay|nick=The Rt. Hon. Lord John Hay|appt=13 May, 1880{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank={{AdmRN}}|name=Frederick Beauchamp Paget Seymour, First Baron Alcester|nick=The Right Hon. Lord Alcester|appt=6 March, 1883{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Anthony Hiley Hoskins|nick=Sir Anthony H. Hoskins|appt=2 July, 1885{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=Richard Vesey Hamilton|nick=Sir R. Vesey Hamilton|appt=31 December, 1888{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Rear-Admiral|name=Henry Fairfax|nick=Henry Fairfax|appt=26 October, 1889{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=Frederick William Richards|nick=Sir Frederick W. Richards|appt=23 May, 1892{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Walter Talbot Kerr|nick=The Right Hon. Lord Walter Kerr|appt=1 November, 1893{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Frederick George Denham Bedford|nick=Sir Frederick G. D. Bedford|appt=27 May, 1895{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Walter Talbot Kerr|nick=The Right Hon. Lord Walter Kerr|appt=1 May, 1899{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Archibald Lucius Douglas|nick=Archibald L. Douglas|appt=14 August, 1899{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=John Arbuthnot Fisher, First Baron Fisher|nick=Sir John A. Fisher|appt=10 June, 1902<ref>Fisher Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/36.}} f. 455.</ref>|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Charles Carter Drury|nick=Sir Charles C. Drury|appt=31 July, 1903{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Naval Lord}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=William Henry May|nick=Sir William H. May|appt=20 March, 1907{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Francis Charles Bridgeman Bridgeman|nick=Sir Francis C. B. Bridgeman|appt=25 March, 1909{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=George Le Clerc Egerton|nick=Sir George Le C. Egerton|appt=25 March, 1911{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Louis Alexander Mountbatten, First Marquess of Milford Haven|nick=His Serene Highness Prince Louis of Battenberg|appt=5 December, 1911{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=John Rushworth Jellicoe, First Earl Jellicoe|nick=Sir John R. Jellicoe|appt=9 December, 1912{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Frederick Tower Hamilton|nick=Sir Frederick T. Hamilton|appt=31 July, 1914{{UKNavalStaff|p. 125}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral (Acting)|name=Somerset Arthur Gough-Calthorpe|nick=The Hon. Sir Somerset A. Gough-Calthorpe|appt=30 June, 1916{{UKNavalStaff|p. 125}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=Cecil Burney, First Baronet|nick=Sir Cecil Burney|appt=4 December, 1916{{UKNavalStaff|p. 125}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Rosslyn Erskine Wemyss, First Baron Wester Wemyss|nick=Sir Rosslyn E. Wemyss|appt=6 September, 1917{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Herbert Leopold Heath|nick=Sir Herbert L. Heath|appt=27 September, 1917{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=Montague Edward Browning|nick=Sir Montague E. Browning|appt=31 March, 1919{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank=Admiral|name=Henry Francis Oliver|nick=Sir Henry F. Oliver|appt=30 September, 1920{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Michael Culme-Seymour, Fourth Baronet|nick=Sir Michael Culme-Seymour, Bart.|appt=15 August, 1924{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Hubert George Brand|nick=The Hon. Sir Hubert G. Brand|appt=22 April, 1925{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank=Vice-Admiral|name=Michael Henry Hodges|nick=Sir Michael H. Hodges|appt=16 August, 1927{{UKNavalStaff|p. 119}}|as=Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank={{AdmRN}}|name=Hubert George Brand|nick=Hubert G. Brand|appt=1927}} {{Tenure|rank={{AdmRN}}|name=Cyril Thomas Moulden Fuller|nick=Cyril T. M. Fuller|appt=1930}} {{Tenure|rank={{AdmRN}}|name=Alfred Dudley Pickman Rogers Pound|nick=Sir Alfred D. P. R. Pound|appt=1932}} {{Tenure|rank={{AdmRN}}|name=Martin Eric Dunbar-Nasmith|nick=Sir Martin E. Dunbar-Nasmith|appt=1935}} {{TenureListEnd}} </div name=fredbot:office0> ==Naval Assistants to the Second Sea Lord== <div name=fredbot:office1 otitle="Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord" nat="UK">{{TenureListBegin|Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Robert Falcon Scott|nick=Robert F. Scott|appt=24 March, 1909<ref>Scott Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}} f. 501.</ref>}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=William Osbert Boothby|nick=William O. Boothby|appt=8 December, 1909<ref>"Naval and Military Intelligence" (Official Appointments and Notices). ''The Times''. Saturday, 20 November, 1909. Issue '''39122''', col D, p. 5.</ref>}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Cecil Foley Lambert|nick=Cecil F. Lambert|appt=25 March, 1911<ref>Lambert Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}} f. 279.</ref>}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Edward Montgomery Phillpotts|nick=Edward M. Phillpotts|appt=31 July, 1912<ref>Phillpotts Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/43.}} f. 170.</ref>}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Alexander Lowndes|nick=Alexander Lowndes|appt=30 March, 1919{{NLJan20|p. 1812}}|as=Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Arthur John Davies|nick=Arthur J. Davies|appt=1920|as=Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Theodore John Hallett|nick=Theodore J. Hallett|appt=1922|as=Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Arthur Edward Frederick Bedford|nick=Arthur E. F. Bedford|appt=1924|as=Naval Assistant to the Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel}} {{TenureListEnd}} </div name=fredbot:office1> ==See Also== {{refbegin}} {{WP|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sea_Lord}} {{refend}} ==Footnotes== {{reflist}} ==Bibliography== {{refbegin}} *{{UKNavalStaff}} {{refend}} {{Template:Board of Admiralty}} [[Category:Second Sea Lords|*]] [[Category:Second Naval Lords|*]] [[Category:Pages with Offices]]

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