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'''Herbert Julian Carnduff''' ( – ) served in the [[Royal Navy]].
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{{LieutRN}} '''Herbert Julian Carn-Duff''', D.S.C. (13 July, 1892 – 13 April, 1922) served in the [[Royal Navy]]. He would become well-known as a rugby player, but drowned at age 29.
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==Life & Career==
 
==Life & Career==
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The son of The Honourable Mr. Justice Carn-Duff, C.H. of Calcutta.
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The Commander-in-Chief, Portsmouth considered Carn-Duff "much to blame" in a grounding of {{UK-P45}} and the Lieutenant was cautioned to be more careful in future.<ref>Carn-Duff Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/54/68.|}} f. 68.</ref>
  
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Carn-Duff was appointed in command of the {{UK-Lucifer|f=t}} on 28 January, 1918.{{NLFeb19|p. 836}}
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Carnduff was promoted to {{SubRN}} on 30 September, 1912.{{NLMar13|p. 13}}
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Carnduff was appointed in command of the {{UK-Lucifer|f=t}} on 28 January, 1918.{{NLFeb19|p. 836}}
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Appointed to {{UK-Valiant}} on 1 September 1921, Carn-Duff drowned at Plymouth "under mysterious circumstances" on 13 April, 1922.  He had gone ashore to play rugby, and was seen in Plymouth at 11.20pm, "sober and normal".  His body was found the next day off Bull Point.  It was thought that he might have fallen into the water while trying to find a boat that could take him back to the battleship.{{ToL|Naval Officer Drowned|15 Apr. 1922, p. 9}}{{ToL|Death of Two Naval Officers|17 Apr. 1922, p. 16}}
  
 
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Latest revision as of 08:25, 16 October 2022

Lieutenant Herbert Julian Carn-Duff, D.S.C. (13 July, 1892 – 13 April, 1922) served in the Royal Navy. He would become well-known as a rugby player, but drowned at age 29.

Life & Career

The son of The Honourable Mr. Justice Carn-Duff, C.H. of Calcutta.

Carn-Duff was promoted to Sub-Lieutenant on 30 September, 1912.[1]

Carn-Duff was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant on 30 June, 1914.[2]

The Commander-in-Chief, Portsmouth considered Carn-Duff "much to blame" in a grounding of P45 and the Lieutenant was cautioned to be more careful in future.[3]

Carn-Duff was appointed in command of the destroyer Lucifer on 28 January, 1918.[4]

Appointed to Valiant on 1 September 1921, Carn-Duff drowned at Plymouth "under mysterious circumstances" on 13 April, 1922. He had gone ashore to play rugby, and was seen in Plymouth at 11.20pm, "sober and normal". His body was found the next day off Bull Point. It was thought that he might have fallen into the water while trying to find a boat that could take him back to the battleship.[5][6]

See Also

Naval Appointments
Preceded by
New Command 		Captain of H.M.S. P59
19 Feb, 1917[7] – 7 Sep, 1917[8] 		Succeeded by
Reginald A. Woodward
Preceded by
Charles B. Land 		Captain of H.M.S. P45
7 Sep, 1917[9][10] – 28 Jan, 1918[11] 		Succeeded by
John R. P. Thompson
Preceded by
Edward C. Thornton 		Captain of H.M.S. Lucifer
28 Jan, 1918[12][13] – 28 Jan, 1919[14] 		Succeeded by
?

Footnotes

  1. ↑ The Navy List. (March, 1913). p. 13.
  2. ↑ The Navy List. (December, 1918). p. 32b.
  3. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  4. ↑ The Navy List. (February, 1919). p. 836.
  5. ↑ "Naval Officer Drowned." The Times (London, England), 15 Apr. 1922, p. 9.
  6. ↑ "Death of Two Naval Officers." The Times (London, England), 17 Apr. 1922, p. 16.
  7. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  8. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  9. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  10. ↑ The Navy List. (November, 1917). p. 396f.
  11. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  12. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.
  13. ↑ The Navy List. (February, 1919). p. 836.
  14. ↑ Carn-Duff Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/54/68. f. 68.

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