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References needed for RN ships' boats

 
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mabrown



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: References needed for RN ships' boats Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

I'm working on a 3d model of an Indefatigable class battlecruiser.

I want to model the ship's boats but lack any decent references. I think these boats were pretty common across the various British dreadnoughts?

Any links to references (free/cheap) or scans of plans would be much appreciated!

Mark Brown

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tone
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thought is John Roberts's Anatomy of the Ship book on Dreadnought. A good several boats there in fair detail (given their place in the scope of things)

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mabrown



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tone!

The real bummer is that I had a copy of anatomy for HMS Hood but I can't find it! I suspect that the boats in that would have been ok as a reference. She had a 50ft(?) steam pinnace. I moved house a while back and haven't seen it since :(

These boats really add to the overall look. Troels Hansen's boats on his 3d Warspite are particularly nice. It would be nice to achieve that level of detail.

Mark
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For boats, the anatomy of Dreadnought has more drawings than the Hood one.

It is a good time to bring up the model sharing issue again. There could be quite some time saved by sharing the components, like the boats, ports, scuttles, anchors and even turrets. With those shared parts, one can either use it directly with his model or create his copy by referencing existing ones. It will reduce the modeling time and increase productivity. One more benefit is that the components can be double checked for historial accuracy.
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mabrown



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tone and Max,

I found my copy of Anatomy for Hood :) The boats in that are a help. Also think I can get a copy of Anatomy for Dreadnought here in Adelaide for AU$30 so I'm going to pick that up. I suppose hull lines or sections for these boats is unlikely unless you have builders plans. I'll just have to wing it!

I also think a repository for reusable parts is a good idea. I thought I remembered there being some parts models up on the DP site before. Are they still there? Any plans to reintroduce this Tone?

Mark
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this sort of repository is the key to any serious modeling effort. Ships become compositions more than anything.

I would gladly host any such repository. The key, I think, will be in creating a database (or script) model suitable for allowing the composition of the models to be achieved from the component parts.

We'd need to consider who would have access to the models, and whether a single or a small variety of model licenses could be applied to them individually (e.g.: someone might determine that his 13.5" turret is for free use by other DP members for static, non-commercial renders, whereas someone else might determine his training handwheel for a 4" gun is free for anyone at all with no barriers).

Minimally, we should agree, I think, on a single (or small number) of "standard" formats, a filenaming scheme, and minimal meta data format (artist, source, errata) etc

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Iain



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, any chance of this?
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