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Iain



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Armored Cruiser USS North Carolina Build Reply with quote

I am building a model of the USS North Carolina (ACR 12) for the North Carolina Maritime Museum. Plans FINALLY arrived from the National Archives three months after ordering.

I've already started redrafting:


















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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



You will notice that I have drawn the ship as she originally appeared.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice line drawing!

Are you planning a 3D version?

Would you be willing to share digital copies of those drawings?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to add the best digital versions of those drawings you'd be able and willing to share to those on the site.

I'd happily affix a placard with whatever credit/restrictions you'd care to place upon them, in a manner similar to the ones I have in place.

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Iain



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkD wrote:
Nice line drawing!

Are you planning a 3D version?

Would you be willing to share digital copies of those drawings?

MD


I'm limiting the 3d version to just the hull, and I'm only doing that in order to make sure that everything matches up correctly. The drawings are for a physical model I am building for the North Carolina Maritime Museum.

tone wrote:
I would love to add the best digital versions of those drawings you'd be able and willing to share to those on the site.

I'd happily affix a placard with whatever credit/restrictions you'd care to place upon them, in a manner similar to the ones I have in place.

tone


I would love to make the drawings freely available, but I may not be able to because I am doing this as a volunteer of the Maritime Museum. I'll have to talk to Paul about who actually owns the drawings.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it looks like I'm free to do what I wish with my drawings. Tony, do you still have my email?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would North Carolina and Washington (later Seattle) be the same class? They appear simular.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Carolina and Washington are both Tennessee class.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the USN, BB43 and BB44 Tennessee and California respectively were Tennessee class. BB56 Washington and BB55 North Carolina were classified (North Carolina).

I drove by the North Carolina and wished I had the time to tour it but I had little time and an appointment on Misery Lane, Cape Fear (no joke, this is an actual address).

I did have the opportunity to tour BB60 (South Dakota Class) USS Alabama several times.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Domingue wrote:
According to the USN, BB43 and BB44 Tennessee and California respectively were Tennessee class. BB56 Washington and BB55 North Carolina were classified (North Carolina).

I drove by the North Carolina and wished I had the time to tour it but I had little time and an appointment on Misery Lane, Cape Fear (no joke, this is an actual address).

I did have the opportunity to tour BB60 (South Dakota Class) USS Alabama several times.


I think he was referring to USS Washington (ACR-11) and USS North Carolina (ACR-12) - they were both Tennessee class.

Washington was later renamed Seattle and North Carolina was renamed Charlotte to be in line with battleship and cruiser naming conventions.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see now the early classifications. I keep forgetting pre-WWII, sorry I'll keep my mouth shut in the future.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Domingue wrote:
I see now the early classifications. I keep forgetting pre-WWII, sorry I'll keep my mouth shut in the future.


No - it can be terribly confusing. Some of those ships had 3 or 4 different classifications and 2 or 3 different names.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad,.. I should have made the ACR note. It is confusing at times. I was thrown earlier when I saw a "CA" in place of "ACR" for the same ship. FYI Paul, these ships being mentioned are pre WWI,.. The ship Brooklyn I mentioned in another thread was a veteran of the Spanish/American war.

And no joke about the address? Wonder who thought that up?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Armored Cruisers ACR-10 thru 13 Reply with quote

The "Big 10" ACs were as big as the USN pre-Dreadnought BBs, hence were given state names; the were renamed after cities in their states when the names were assigned to BB hulls (some never completed).

Although they are of the same class, the 1st 2 (Tennessee & Washington) were slightly different from the last 2 (N. Carolina and Montana)

T+W:
2 anchor hawse pipes each side
constant diameter funnels

NC+M:
1 anchor hawse-pipe each side
funnels change diameter part way up
different external armor pattern
bow 2 feet shorter*
stern 2 feet longer*

*relative to the frame numbering and the location of everything else.
No, I am not out of my mind, but it did drive me crazy taking the side view from the NC, and the sections form the WA!!!

Wes
(working on a ACR-11 USS Washington, sharing dwgs with John)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes,

I saw you are building the Washington,.. are You building a 3D or a Physical model?

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